Muddy Waters

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  JW. org: "No, we are not a cult. We do not look to any human as our leader."

  by Faithful Witness in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know this has been rehashed, time and again, but i saw this interesting blip on jw.org last night, and did a little thinking about it.... jw.

  org answers the important question that so many have... are jehovah's witnesses a cult?.

  jehovah's witnesses do not look to any human as their leader.

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  Muddy Waters

  Excellent info here.

  Finkelstein, part of your post said:

  "Children often become the most hurt because of strict rules enforced on them. They lose their childhood and are deeply affected, being unable to adjust later on in life. Religious systems that are not balanced can be socially and psychologically disastrous for innocent children."

  The greatest pain I have from being in that f*cking cult is that I put my children through it, raised them in it. :(

  Thank goodness they never accepted it when they became teenagers, but they are still hurt and damaged by their upbringing.
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  Dub Glossary

  by Farkel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  many of you have already seen this, but there are also many new ones posting and lurking.

  this is a little handy reference to help you understand dub-speak.

  i've updated it an added a number of new terms and expressions.. ----------------------.

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  Muddy Waters

  Awesome.
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  Jehovah Witness Yahoo answers Nazi's at it again

  by Watchtower-Free in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just had the question below reported by jws and removed for "misuse of question format" .. .

  it received a bunch of outraged reponses from people critical of the jws and i'm sure shocked.

  a few jws also .. .

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  Muddy Waters

  I think, though, just to be fair, that the WT writers may have been thinking of other cultures and practices when they wrote this, because I heard or read (probably in the WT somewhere, lol) that in China or ancient China, or perhaps among other cultures, that this was an acceptable practice to calm babies. But for us reading this statement today without any context of that sort of background to which they could have been referring, sounds weird and sick and twisted and just wrong, wrong, wrong!
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  Jehovah Witness Yahoo answers Nazi's at it again

  by Watchtower-Free in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just had the question below reported by jws and removed for "misuse of question format" .. .

  it received a bunch of outraged reponses from people critical of the jws and i'm sure shocked.

  a few jws also .. .

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  Muddy Waters

  You know, that's one of the things which finally woke me up about this cult. Realizing how freaking clueless they are about children and how twisted and sick are the minds of the GB and their writers/leaders/editing staff.
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  My Explanation of Why They Got it Wrong About Blood Using Only the NWT

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  10 " any israelite or any alien living among them who eats any bloodi will set my face against that person who eats blood and will cut him off from his people.

  12 therefore i say to the israelites, "none of you may eat blood, nor may an alien living among you eat blood.

  15 'anyone, whether native-born or alien, who eats anything found dead or torn by wild animals must wash his clothes and bathe with water, and he will be ceremonially unclean till evening; then he will be clean.

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  Muddy Waters

  Excellent! Thank you, marking & saving.
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  Going Beyond the Things Written.

  by integ in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i went to the meeting today.

  i go probably once a month for various reasons i have alluded to here.. .

  i don't know what the title of the talk was, since i pulled my usual come in 5 minutes late, muster a fake "i'm mildly embarrassed" look on my face and slip in the back row move, but the crux of it was to not go 'beyond the things written'.. .

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  Muddy Waters

  Perfect summation! They are in such a FOG -- a fog of mental heaviness cleverly created through ample use of

  FEAR

  OBLIGATION and

  GUILT.

  That's the evil oil that runs the machine and keeps the drones under control.
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  A Hard Question For Jehovah Witnesses To Answer

  by TheNurseInBlack in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  which teachings did jesus/god approve when considering jehovah witnesses?.

  "since jehovah god and jesus christ completely trust the faithful and discreet slave, should we not do the same?

  watchtower 2009 feb 15 p.27 how do we know that god and jesus christ trust them completly?

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  Muddy Waters

  Excellent quotes and references to WT articles worth knowing about! Thank you.
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  “Be obedient and decisive!” – Governing Body instructions to elders leaked on YouTube

  by Watchtower-Free in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/be-obedient-and-decisive-governing-body-instructions-to-elders-leaked-on-youtube.

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  Muddy Waters

  Did anybody notice in the clip with Anthony Morris, that when he pulled the bible off his well-polished book shelf, there were two busts or heads of ... well, whoever they were...? Isn't that supposed to be akin to creature worship or something??
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  The Atheist's Book of Bible Stories

  by RunningMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  over the years, i have posted all of the chapters from my atheist's book of bible stories on this site.. however, since the original posting, many of the chapters have been polished and updated.. the complete book is now available for downloading, if anyone is interested: http://www.sendspace.com/file/qwpjol.

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  Muddy Waters

  This looks like a great thread to bump again! Starting to read the PDF now, looks like an awesome, revealing and thoughtful read!
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  interview with an apostate: BIGMAC

  by bigmac in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  tell us a little about yourself and your family.. .i'm 65---divorced--3 grown up kids--7 ish grandchildren.

  were you a born in or a convert?.

  .not born in--dragged into it----aged 9--- by my late mother.

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  Muddy Waters

  That hit me hard, reading about your grandchildren :(

  Damn the WTS